Saturday, February 11, 2012

Heaven: Why It's Not as Popular as You'd Think

Heaven is a place of singular beauty and unending joy--a home for those souls who have found refuge in Jesus Christ. Although the exact nature of Heaven has been a topic of much conjecture, all orthodox Christians have believed that it is spectacularly good. Logically, this might lead one to believe that those who reside in Hell would regret their rejection of God and eternally desire the passage to Heaven.

I've heard Heaven compared to Noah's ark, which was sealed up by God when the floods started, leaving those who had rejected Noah's warnings to beat hopelessly on the door to get in. Surely there must be belatedly repentant souls beating on the gates of Heaven, hopelessly begging for a pardon, right?

I suggest not.

As bad as Hell is (and, I do believe in Hell), I'm entirely convinced that its residents would rather be there than in Heaven. For them, Heaven would be an even worse Hell. I have come to this conclusion for a couple of reasons. First, my own acceptance of Reformed theology has lead me to ask difficult questions about the harsh reality of God's judgment, and this resolves some of those questions. Secondly, I have been influenced heavily by C.S. Lewis' The Great Divorce and Mere Christianity.


Reformed Theology

It took me 10 years of eroding resistance to finally accept the severe doctrines of Reformed (Calvinist) theology. It is not a theology that one accepts due to its warmth. I was compelled by its truth, rather than it is congeniality. (Of course, my allegiance is to biblical truth as best I can grasp it -- not any particular confession. Reformed theology could be falsified for me.) Due to humanity's radical fallenness, no one deserves God's salvation, and no one even desires it. Our wills are so completely corrupted that our desire can only be for self, rather than for God or others. Therefore, the only way to get saved is for God the Holy Spirit to change our wills by the touch of his grace, which is so magnificent as to make it irresistible. It is so good that everyone who encounters it truly and freely wants it; it is not coerced. Because no one can choose God by his own will, God must choose whom he wants. And, apparently, not everyone is chosen. That's the severe part. But, then again, no one deserves it at all.

To many this sounds mean, but the meanness is only superficial. In reality, those who are not elect, do not want to be, because their wills are radically corrupted. They don't want God, and they don't get God. Those whom God does elect do want God, and they get God. In this theological system, everyone gets what his will wants. Why God doesn't pick everyone is something of a mystery, but it is his prerogative to pick whom he wants. God has mercy on whom he has mercy, and we are in no position to talk back to him. (Romans 9:6-21)

From a Reformed perspective, residents of Hell have no love for God due to their own corrupted desires. But this raises another question, what do they do when they get to Hell? Do they not realize what an awful decision they've made and repent? If they repent, is it benevolent of God to make them live with their decision for all of eternity in unquenching and unconsuming fire? Why must God's grace be cut off at physical death? C.S. Lewis provides a possible theological resolution.

The Great Divorce

The Great Divorce
In The Great Divorce, a bus pulls up in Hell and a number of embittered residents of Hell board. Then, the bus seems to rise up out of Hell, eventually arriving in Heaven. (In reality, the bus is only getting larger, and Hell is smaller than a grain of sand in Heaven.) All of the passengers, who appear as translucent ghosts, are told they can get out. They are even told that they can stay if they want. Shockingly, they all find Heaven to be absolutely intolerable. The rays of light hurt them. The grass, which is soft under the feet of the Heaven-ites, pierces their feet like knives. Rain drops threaten to riddle them with holes like bullets. They are not substantial enough to withstand the "realness" of Heaven. The story is a series of interactions that the Hellions have with one another and with the residents of Heaven, and Lewis reveals the psychology of the experience for each character. Each very plausibly decides to return to Hell, because Heaven is misery for them. Why? How could Heaven be so miserable?

The answer to this lies in Mere Christianity in which Lewis constructs a continuum of the human condition. At one end of the continuum, the human nature is purified and virtuous, most like our Lord Jesus Christ. At this end, we become real and solid like the residents of Heaven. At the other end, the human nature has become totally devoid of any virtue and is hellish and evil. The human spirit becomes empty and unsubstantial, a hollow shell of what it originally was. In this present life, each human action moves that person's central being a little to the hellish side or a little to the virtuous side. Lewis urges his reader to seek out and develop a virtuous life now, because only a virtuous soul can immediately enjoy the perfections of Heaven. Even those of us who are in Christ may find Heaven to be a bit uncomfortable at first, until we develop complete virtuosity.

Bringing It All Together

It is this that made it all click for me. Everyone gets what his will want. But, also, if God were to just forcibly remove everyone from Hell and plunk them down in Heaven, in spite of their perverted wills, they would be absolutely miserable. Forcing Heaven upon the hellishly unvirtuous would be worse than Hell. This is precisely why Hell must exist. It is the only alternative to God's perfection for those whose wills have rejected him. Hell is made necessary by its residents.

Love Wins
This is also why I reject Rob Bell's postmortem universalism. In Love Wins, Bell argues that God's love is so overcoming that no one stays in Hell. Hell is a place where people remain only until God's love "wins" and compels them into faith and repentance. Eventually, Hell, like a vacant slum, is destroyed, because no one lives there anymore. This scheme must be rejected on biblical exegetical grounds, for one, but it also assumes that people are capable of repentance while in Hell. There is no logical or theological reason to think that they are. If Lewis is right, Hell is a place where one's nature continues further and further down the hellish continuum, because there is no work of God to sanctify him back the other direction. They don't get better by contrition; they get worse by pride and hatred.

Heaven is not a place that the damned long to inhabit. They may hate Hell, but there is no reason to believe they'd prefer Heaven.

58 comments:

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    1. Glad you were here. While you Tweet on sports (on cable), I'm a theology/philosophy nerd on Blogspot. Go team!

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  2. I honestly think you pick favorites. Many people are injustic-ly judged by you. I feel as if you pick favorits at the school. You did me a great injustice. Just saying. But I also love your post about heaven. Loved it. I loved the book The Great Divorce. Greatest book ever. I think that when i get to heaven, i will say, "I don't deserve to be here, but I have a loving, caring father that has invited because he picked me." I also think they should make a movie out of this book and call it "Soul Train". Sorry, had to make that pun. Keep on rocking Mr. Mooney

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    1. Dear Anonymous,

      There is a lot to respond to here. First, thank you for your comments regarding the article. I hope it was helpful. And, I totally agree that 'The Great Divorce' should be a movie.

      Secondly, I'm distressed to see your comment that I pick favorites in class. You obviously feel very strongly about it or you would not have written it on a totally unrelated, public, and anonymous blog post comment. The only appropriate and Christian way to deal with such a thing is to come see me in person. (Matthew 18) I'm a much more reasonable person than you give me credit for.

      Sincerely,

      Charlie Mooney

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  3. Love this post. I've honestly never thought about heaven and hell that way, that must people who aren't going to heaven probably don't wanna be there. At the same time however, it's so sad to know that some people are offered the fullness of God, but turn it away because they want to stay trapped in a prison when freedom it is freely given. I mean we all do it at some point, but hopefully us as Christians don't stay trapped in our selfishness forever. But as C.S Lewis put it, how when someone is in hell they keep spiraling down and down because of no santification process, or God holding back sin. This blog post really brings attention to the severity of salvation, and even if the analogy C.S. Lewis used isn't real, it does also brings attention to how far selfishness can bring someone's soul down.

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    1. Thanks for the comment, faceoflove1. C.S. Lewis is not a theologian, but I think his understanding of Hell makes the most biblical sense. Lewis seems to have a firm grip on the depth of the human sin problem. Thanks for reading.

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    2. Forgot to put that that that post was me, Hannah H. I need some bonus points..... :)

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    3. I'll get your points. haha. thanks.

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  4. I really love this post. This just intensifies my desire to read The Great Divorce even more! Definitely picking it up for my Spring Break read. But anyways, as you know I've had so many issues with the whole "election" thing in the past, but I think through this post you've certainly broadened my knowledge. As far as Calvinism goes, I'm still not sure. I just feel like there shouldn't be label on anything in regards to Christianity, if you're a Christian and go to heaven then heck yeah! I feel like labels just cause Christians to judge other Christians, sorta like the last post I commented on, and exactly like what happened last year in our 8th period bible class! I guess this post just kinda got me thinking, since now i'm typing this long rabbit trail comment. But I really enjoyed this post and I'm looking forward to reading The Great Divorce and dicussing it further with you.
    Kimmy Hays

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  5. This is a really cool article and I thought it was neat when comparing heaven to Noah's Ark because once it is rejected, none can enter. I think in today's society, it's true that most people that are in hell actually would rather be there than heaven because, to them, heaven would be the true hell. I don't understand why they would want this but that's just how some people are and I think you did a good job of explaining it.

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  6. First of all, this post really makes me want to read this book. But besides that this really makes me sad to think about the fact that people's hearts are hardened towards God so much that they would pass up his free ticket to Heaven. While God has been nothing but merciful to us offering eternal life, people still reject him. After reading this, I feel more desired to spread the gospel so people do not have that attitude towards our Creator.
    Gracie Beckman

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  7. Though I'm not sure if I agree completely with Calvinism, as opposed to a free-will standpoint, this article makes me view Hell and those who don't desire God in a different light than before.
    Luke Hogan

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  8. After reading this entry it becomes apparent to me that your beliefs can be considered extremely similar to what Keller says in Chapter 5 of, The Reason for God. Keller explains to the reader that everyone in Hell wants to be there. This is because the people in Hell would rather have their freedom, than to have salvation. Keller says that the people in hell are addicted to being their like people who are addicted to drugs, or alcohol. This blog entry compares to Keller's beliefs when you talk about how people in Hell would be more miserable in Heaven. I think that Keller describes the people in Hell perfectly when saying, "In the end, all God does is give people exactly what they truly want the most." Like you, Keller also gives examples of the Great Divorce to back up his belief's. After reading Chapter 5, and this entry i feel particularly compelled to read the novel!
    Kirsten Acord

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  9. I think that your post and chapter five of Keller's The Reason for God have very similar ideas and concpets. You both agree that the people in hell want to be there. It is obvious that you and Keller were both influenced by C.S. Lewis' Great Divorce. One of the quotes from Lewis that Keller inserted int his chapter says, "All that are in Hell choose it." You and Keller are in obvious agreement that in the end, the corrupted soul of mankingd will get what it desires-hell.
    Allison Hopkins

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  10. You definitely agreed with Keller in several ways. You both use examples from C.S. Lewis and have the similar belief that people in hell would rather be there than in heaven. Keller states that people in hell would even think heaven is a sham. They do not want out of hell or feel any need for God. This goes along with what you were saying about Calvinism. If someone is chosen by God then they will want him and will want to be in heaven. Those who were not chosen do not want God nor to be in heaven.
    Breanna Keith

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  11. I want to say I agree with you, but it is hard to agree that people wouldnt want to get into heaven if they have a second chance. Heaven is a place that is perfect, how can someone not want to be there but want to be in Hell, the worst place ever? I dont think that everyone will get out of hell, and even if they do then they won't get to go to heaven because then what would be the point of becoming a Christian and living for God on the Earth? -Sarah Nekonchuk

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  12. You really caused me to think more about Heaven and Hell, and how people get there. When I was younger, I always thought that only sin itself would cause the painful rejection of Heaven (painful is what I always thought it would be). Your post allowed me to understand that yes, it is a decision on where you go in the end. The question that popped into my head is how did that decision happen? Got me thinking on Calvinism now..
    Jamie Potter

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  13. Now I am really looking forward to reading The Great Divorce next year! I am not totally sure that I 100% agree with the whole Calvanist/God picks who He wants thing, because I think that there are verses in the Bible that could support Calvanism and Free will. But,I think this is a very interesting perspective to look at. I have always thought that those who go to hell spend eternity wishing that they have turned from their wicked ways and crying out to God to save them. BUT, in Luke 16:19-31 there is the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. They both die, and the rich man goes to hell, and Lazarus goes to heaven. The rich man sees Abraham far away, and cries out to him for the tiniest bit of water. After being denied, he begs Abraham to "sent Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not come to this place of torment." It appears in this passage that the rick man is, indeed, recognizing that heaven is a better place than where he is at, for he wants his family to go there rather than be with him in hell. Or was Lazurus in "Abraham's bossum"? I am not sure about that, but either way, he was recognizing that wherever Lazurus was was better than hell. Of course this is a parable, and may or may not be a true story, but I doubt that God would use a circumstance that could not be/was not true.

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  14. Mr. Mooney,
    I really enjoyed reading this post! It broadened my thoughts on Heaven and Hell. I also an interested in reading The Great Divorce now! Anyways, I enjoyed reading on what you said about Calvinism. It makes sense, but I still can commit! I just don't exactly see how God can "pick" who He wants in Heaven, of course I know He can, it just seems...mean, like you said. However, I understood that if people reject God and do not want to be chosen, they don't get chosen. People who live in Hell want to reside there, they have no desire to repent and go to Heaven, I agree.No one deserves God. But the mystery of why God does not choose everyone makes me wonder.

    -Regan Bell

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  15. this is an awesome article. i agree with what you said about the people in hell not wanting to be in heaven. It may be because they were not touched by Gods grace, but i feel it could also be because they feel as if they are not worthy to be with the Lord.
    Cody Morris

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  16. I completely agree with what you said about Heaven and Hell. It makes since that the people who are in Heaven want to be there and the people that are in Hell don't want to be in Heaven. Everybody gets what they want in the end. I also agree with you about Calvinism because I've read and studied Romans 9 and other verses and it makes complete sense to me.After reading this, I really want to read The Great Divorce and Mere Christianity. Olivia Meriweather

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  17. I am thankful you posted this. I don't think I would have ever thought of Heaven and Hell like that. I always thought that the people in Hell were miserable and wished that they could be in Heaven where there is no punishment. I am glad you put C.S. Lewis book in there to show his perspective of it...makes a lot of sense. I will have to remember that book for college. Now I see where you are coming from with your believe in Calvinism. Although, I am not sure I believe in it, it seems to make more sense now.
    McKenzie T.

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  18. It is interesting and a bit morbid to think that the people in hell prefer that to the perect utopia of heaven, but it is a reality. As Christians, sometimes people forget that people do not get saved simply for the perk of going to heaven, but because of the relationship that we have with a holy savior. These people in hell, even if they wanted to go to heaven, would not have the right reasons, they would just desire a better existance. This is a great article and it puts lost people in a new light

    Drew Dodge

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  19. Very good post. I do agree that people in Hell want to be there, as they do not want to or are uncomfortable with letting go of their pride before God, to get into heaven.

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  20. I never thought about Heaven and Hell in the way that you discussed in your blog. I always believed that the people in Hell realized they made a mistake and desperately wanted to get into heaven, but couldn't. I do want to know, if they don't want to get into heaven and are perfectly content in hell, then what was the reason for the story of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16? Because the rich man wanted some form of relief, and when he couldn't get it he asked for someone to talk to his sons so they wouldn't follow him to Hell. And if each person is satisfied with where they are then is the "torment" of Hell what those who want to be in heaven would view as torment because they are with God but those in Hell are separated from Him? or is there actual torment in Hell aside from eternal separation from God that those who want to be in Hell are just...ok with? Just some random thoughts from reading through your blog. It was a very good topic and had many interesting points to it that i really enjoyed reading.

    Kayla Williams

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  21. The more and more that I read on this I'm slowly beginning to lean a little more to the Calvinist persepective. Once one is able to give over the first initial shock and think it through, it is a little more understandable. God gave all of us free will. Its not necessarily that he didnt "pick" certain people, but that He is omniscient;therefore, the "elect" would simply be those that would use their free will to follow him. At least thats is how I took it. Calvinism is one of those things that can be quite difficult to comprehend.

    ~Jessa Wilson

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  22. I have never thought of heaven and hell like this before. Very interesting information. I can see how you bleieve in Calvinism. My simple mind has a hard time going there because I can only think of Heaven as the most glorious place for everyone, but for some it might even be painful. I have always thought that that everyone's goal should be to have relationship with God and go to Heaven, but this post puts this belief in a new light. Thanks for making my mind "think." I am very interested in these books.
    Anna Cain

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  23. I need to read this book now. Heaven is a very interesting topic. This article makes me think of the goals that I should have while I'm still here on earth.

    Drew Dodge

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  24. This article really makes me want to read the book. It blows my mind that there are people who would really rather be in hell than in heaven. I know it is true it is just hard to believe.
    -Shane Starkey

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  25. I really cannot believe that some people would actually prefer to spend eternity in hell instead of in eternal paradise in heaven. But those that are in hell deserve to be there for a reason, whether it be by choice or from the ignorance that they lived their lives by. -Andrew Steely

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  26. The Great Divorce is a book that totally blows my mind. It is beyond crazy to think that people would rather spend enternity in hell then in a wonderful place like Heaven. It doesn't make since that people would rather spend their lives miserable then happy. God could turn all of us to him and make us all want his love more then anything but then that would take out the choice. Everyone gets what they want in life and these books seem to prove it. ~Karalee Duker

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  27. Mr. Mooney, at first, when I came across this specific post, I was surprised to see what the title stated. The title only made me want to read this post even more...seriously!! I also thought that these books that were mentioned would be really neat and interesting to read. I was also kind of curious already to see your opinions on heaven and hell. I thought that this was a really neat article to read and understand more about heaven and hell.
    --Brent Clay

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  28. I realize that Lewis' writings were figurative in that there is Biblical evidence of a bus or a chance for the unsaved to "try out" Heaven. However, it is an interesting thought that those who go to Hell would hate heaven. I think the idea would not be so hard to accept if I accepted Calvinism. It's not that I don't want to believe Biblical truth, and I respect your opinion, but I can't accept the thought of God loving some people, not all people. I also can't grasp that He would not send his son for everyone. I see passages that would support either, depending on your interpretation. Regardless of how I disagree on this, from what I've heard in class, our goal is the same. Do everything to glorify Christ, as this life is no longer ours, but His, and to bring others to the redeeming love of Christ. At this point I speak as an Armenian and I lean towards believing Christ "chose" everyone and we decide to take it or not. I know your believe that if God chooses you, you cannot turn away from that. I'm just not sure on this yet, but I would like to say that I do appreciate the time I've had to be challenged in my knowledge of the Bible and my own beliefs.
    Shelby D.

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    1. I'm glad that you know that you and I have the same goal. I don't share my Calvinism so that you all will agree with me. I just share it to be honest about who I am and what I believe. I absolutely respect your opinion as well. Arminian or Calvinist, we're all saved and we're all about Jesus.

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  29. I very enjoyed this actricle very much. It made me think. I think i can understand Calvinism. I believe that God is omniscient. So therefore he knows who is going to heaven and who is not. The elect are the people that God knows are going to heaven.Its not that he rejected anybody he just allowed them to mke a choice.- Byron Pascoe

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  30. I think that this is a very interesting way to think about people in hell. Since your talk last year about Calvinism, I have come to the conclusion that i believe the same way. And, I agree with what you said about people when they are in hell, they want to be there. i can't wait to read these books to help me better understand my beliefs.

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  31. This post really made me think a lot about heaven and hell, and how much more in depth they are than just "heaven is the good place where all Christians go when they die" and "hell is the bad place where all unbelievers go when they die." I don't think I completely agree that the people in hell would hate to be in heaven, because if that was the case then how would hell be a punishment for the unbelievers? They would just think that God is cruel for making every reality a place with eternal suffering for everyone, wouldn't they? I also don't believe in the Calvinism idea. It's not necessarily because it sounds mean to think that God chooses some of his children to burn in the fiery pits of hell, but God obviously knows who is going to heaven and who is not, so why would he even put into existence those who were not chosen? Even though I might not believe some of these veiws, I still like reading about them in this blog because they make me think, and they open my mind up to different possibilities.
    --Saige Wood

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  32. I've never really thought about Heaven and Hell this way.Its interesting to think about if the people in Hell would not want to be in Heaven or not. They may want to be in Heaven to be out of misery, but they also might not want to be there because they don't want to be with God. I honestly believe that there is no certain way of knowing whether or not they'd rather be in Heaven, because we've never talked to someone in Hell. But it is an interesting point to think about.
    -Shelby Shelton

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  33. While this is a interesting view of the subject of hell, I can honestly say it's not one I particularly agree with. The problem I see with it is this: To the no-believers that arrive at heaven and hate it, would their hell just be heaven to them? If they have completely rejected God, wouldn't hell(a place absent of God) be ideal? While I neither attach my self to Calvinism nor Armenian beliefs doesn't this Calvinism view to a certain extent deny the existence of a true hell for non-believers? Feel free to correct me if I'm interpreting this wrong but these are just my thoughts.
    -Audra Staley

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    1. Great question, Audra. Calvinists do not deny the existence of Hell at all. Also, they would not say that Hell would be an ideal place for someone who rejects God. Hell is a play devoid of all good, all happiness, all joy, etc... It is a place of total misery and eternal punishment for rejecting God. The saddest part of it, in my opinion, is that many people would rather be self-centered and miserable than be in the perfect presence of God. It is that way in life some times--some people seem to prefer being miserable. I really do appreciate your thoughts and tough questions. This is how we all learn.

      On a side note, Arminianism is spelled with an "i". When spelled with an "e" (Armenian), it is a nationality--one who is from the nation of Armenia or of Armenian decent.

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  34. I actually remember discussing this in class. I want to read this book on my own time now! I think that it is a good concept, and those in hell do not seek heaven, but they know it must be beter than hell! Hell is punishment for our sins, and it is most definitley not enjoyable! Hell is a place of tourcher, and no man would want to stay there. The only reason I could think that someone would not be able to want heaven would be pride. other than that, I garauntee you that if I were in hell I would much rather be in heaven!
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    1. Emily, you nailed it--pride! Pride is what makes them prefer eternal misery over an eternity with the Father. And, in the absence of God (Hell), they only become more and more and more proud. It is a cancerous sin.

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  35. Mr. Mooney,
    Though I don't attend Conway Christian anymore I have stumbled upon this blog and read through your articles quite often. This really is a great article. Provides the information in such a way that is easy to comprehend without "dumbing" it down too much and loosing the essential meaning. What you say about heaven and hell is spot on. --- also just wanted to say thanks for the influence and information you've given me. After your systematic theology class and reading through your blog you've taught me a lot more than I have learned in my entirety at Conway Christian. Had it not been for your teaching I wouldn't be as strong in my faith as I now am. Thanks again Mr. Mooney. Definitely have my respect as a person and as a man of God.

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    1. Anonymous, Thank you for your very kind words and encouragement. I'm so happy to read this. I'm also glad that my teaching through the blog has been effective. Many blessings to you.
      Sincerely,

      Charlie Mooney

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  36. I believe that God did predestine some people for heaven and some people for hell. In some ways I do agree with the Calvinist theory. In eternity past, God knew who would except Him and the ones that would not. This is what I believe God means by predestination in the Bible. We have our choice here on earth, but those that choose to not believe and go to hell will one day know there is a God. The reason I believe this is because the Bible says "that every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord." At this point it is too late.

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  37. I like this article a lot because i am very interested in knowing about heaven. I know that the bible doesnt say very much about heavven but its still a good topic. I never thought about the people who might rather be in hell rather than in heaven. I thought all people in hell just didnt hear the gospel of christ. This article made me think that there are some people that really do just hate God or they dont believe in him.-Josiah Smith

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  38. I think this was an incredibly interesting and informative atricle. it's interesting to see that people actually get what they want in regards to Heaven or Hell. I have never even thought of it that way. But as I have been taking your worldview class and meeting people with some these worldviews, it really is interesting to see what they think of Heaven or Hell, or if they even believe in it.This article also got me thinking a lot about Calvinism and I think it actually may be true. Thanks for the post! -Jacob Clanton

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  39. This post reminded me of another C.S. Lewis book, The Last Battle. This is a little further away than an analogy, but shows a similar thought process. While it was written in a way that referred to a parallel heaven, I think it works better for describing how some people treat the spiritual world today(in particular atheists, but in truth most people who deny the truth of God's word.) In the story, a group of dwarfs believed that they were thrown into a dark shed and refused to believe what was around them (Narnian heaven analogue) and continued to be blind and miserable.

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  40. I would love to read The Great Divorce! I really like how you pointed out how the people in Hell do not want to be in heaven. Hell means eternal separation from God, which is exactly what the people there want. Calvinism really does make more sense. We as Christians have to get past what makes us feel good and what sounds right to what the Bible actually says. Heaven is kind of a mystery to me. I doubt that it will look like the aBeka pictures that I have seen all of my life, but it will be wonderful. I really enjoyed last semester in worldview learning each worldview's view of the afterlife.
    Mallory Bryant

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  41. I really like the idea of the "realness" of heaven- like how heaven is even more real than this life. I also love C.S. Lewis! His language is just so easy to read that it really helps you to learn, and not just be confused. I've read Mere Christianity and The Problem of Pain but not The Great Divorce, although I really want to- especially after reading this post and hearing you talk about it in class. I'll try to do that this summer.
    Michael Gattis

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  42. The book "Great Divorce" really interests me. People in Hell is given a chance to go to Heaven, but they can't stand the "realness of heaven". Thinking about it now, I just cant imagine what it would be like.
    Leeah Richards

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  43. I know that people who accepted God only go to heaven. However, I can't fully accept why all people from hell would be miserable when they go to heaven. What about people who have never heard about Christ? They have to go to hell since they are non-believers. If God gives them a chance to serve him by bringing them to heaven, wouldn't they (at least some of them) be saved? Also, I don't think people from hell would feel hell as more comfortable than heaven. If God brings them to heaven, wouldn't they eventually notice that they have walked in wrong path and repent? Not all people in hell went there because they hate God, but because they didn't know about God.

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  44. I have learned that Heaven is a place where only people who repent can tolerate. We are all sinful people; however it is about whether to accept God and accept the reality that we are sinners. God may make someone rich and someone poor, but God loves everybody equally and gives everybody the opportunity to receive mercy and repent, which we will go to heaven if we repent and accept God. -Kousei

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  45. I have always wondered about heaven. I still don't understand the point on how to go to heaven. I always question my self, is there really heaven?
    -cindy cho

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  46. It was very interesting to see a new view that a person's desire can influence the actual outcome. It might just be that some people plainly do not want to go to heaven. In The Great Divorce, it was interesting to see that the people from Hell could not withstand the "realness" of Heaven. If I have a chance to, I would definitely read the two books mentioned in this post.
    -Zachery Son

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  47. I guess these books explains further of our discussion about the concept of hell and heaven in class. I think it is a really interesting concept. People in hell will not appreciate being in heaven and thus never be able to to go to heaven even if there is a chance. I do have some questions still, such as whether people in hell even longs for heaven or not. I hope I will be able to read these books and able to answer my question someday.

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  48. I didn't know that there are people who don't want to go to heaven becasue they don't like God. If it is really clear that there is heaven would they like God and go to heaven?-Juwon

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